Both utility · Kioti against John Deere
Kioti HX9010 vs John Deere 5085M
| Spec | Kioti HX9010 | John Deere 5085M |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$77,728 | ~$78,056 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | MSRP, base build |
| Size class | Utility | Utility |
| Transmission | Power Shuttle | Power Shuttle |
| Engine hp | 90 hp | 85 hp |
| PTO hp | 70 hp | 70 hp |
| Loader lift | 4,216 lbsat the pivot pin | 3,027 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 8,002 lbsmeasuring point not recorded | 5,150 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 32 GPM | 24.7 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Daedong | John Deere |
| Weight | 10,230 lbs | 8,298 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 47.6 gal | 37.7 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | No | No |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | No |
| Warranty | 4 yr / unlimited hr powertrain | not published |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
Kioti HX9010
What they like
- 8,002 lb at the 3-point is more than twice the RX6620's rating and puts it in the class of implements that need a genuine utility tractor
- The KL1155 loader lifts 4,216 lb at the pivot pin to 150.6 in, which reaches over the side of a grain trailer
- 32 gpm of pump flow is nearly double the RX line's, so a loader and a rear hydraulic implement can both work without starving
- 47.6 gal of fuel supports a full working day with a loader and no refuelling stop
- 3,833 cc across four cylinders rather than a stretched small block, with a turbo and an intercooler
- The cab is standard equipment, not a $8,000-plus option as it is on the NX and NS models
- 10,230 lb of weight is the traction that 70 PTO hp actually needs to pull tillage
What they complain about
- 70 PTO hp from 90 gross is a 22 percent loss, weak for this class - the 73 hp RX7320 delivers 63 at the PTO for less than half the price
- 48-month powertrain coverage rather than Kioti's 72-month term, on its most expensive tractor
- $77,728 is a different market from the rest of the Kioti lineup and competes with established cab tractors where dealer support carries more weight
- 10,230 lb rules out lawn, orchard and soft-ground work entirely
- The 8,002 lb hitch figure comes with no measuring point, which matters more at this capacity than anywhere else in the range
John Deere 5085M
What they like
- 70 PTO hp from 85 gross is a far better conversion than anything in the 5E line, where a 67.6 hp 5067E sends only 49 hp to the shaft
- MFWD is included in the base price on Deere's own price page, unlike the 5E where the front axle is a $7,103 extra
- 24.7 gpm of hydraulic flow, rising to 25.6 gpm with the PowrQuad PLUS or Powr8 transmission
- 5,150 lb of hitch lift at 24 in. behind the lift points, with a high-capacity option rated to 7,860 lb
- 37.7 gal of fuel on the open station and 43.7 gal with the cab - this is a machine built to stay out all day
- Aftertreatment is a diesel oxidation catalyst and SCR rather than a particulate filter, so there is no soot-loading regeneration cycle
- Four transmissions are offered above the standard PowrReverser, up to a 32F/16R Powr8 with creeper
What they complain about
- About $78,000 on Deere's published base list makes this the most expensive machine of its power class here, and the cab is a further $16,038
- Deere does not publish a single powertrain warranty term for the 5M that could be read off its literature, unlike the 5E's five years and the compacts' six
- Deere's loader prep package lists the 520M, 540M and 600M as compatible without naming one as the match, so the 2,606 lb pivot-pin figure shown here is the smallest of the three - a 540M lifts 3,027 lb at the same point
- At 8,298 lb it is too heavy for turf work and too large for the tight yards a compact handles easily
- No cruise control is listed on the standard PowrReverser build