Both utility · LS Tractor against John Deere
LS MT7101CPS vs John Deere 5095M
| Spec | LS MT7101CPS | John Deere 5095M |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$84,707 | ~$82,365 |
| What that price is | dealer list, not MSRP | MSRP, base build |
| Size class | Utility | Utility |
| Transmission | Power Shuttle | Power Shuttle |
| Engine hp | 100.6 hp | 95 hp |
| PTO hp | 85.5 hp | 80 hp |
| Loader lift | 5,139 lbsmeasuring point not recorded | 3,027 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 8,378 lbsat the ball ends | 5,150 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 22.2 GPM | 24.7 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | LS | John Deere |
| Weight | 7,985 lbs | 8,298 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 30.4 gal | 37.7 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | No | No |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | No |
| Warranty | 6 yr powertrain | not published |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
LS MT7101CPS
What they like
- 8,378 lb of Category II lift, which is more than double what the 63 hp MT463 will pick up
- 24 forward and 24 reverse speeds through a power shuttle, so direction and ratio changes happen without the clutch
- 85.5 hp at the PTO from 100.6 gross is a 15 percent loss, good for a machine of this size
- Factory cab with heat and air conditioning is standard rather than an option, so there is no stripped build to regret
- 30.4-gallon tank and a 5,139 lb LL8100 loader make it a genuine working machine rather than a large hobby tractor
What they complain about
- LS publishes no price; the two dealer figures found were $84,707 and $88,777, and one of them notes pricing is subject to change
- Cab-only means there is no cheaper open-station route into the MT7 frame at all
- LS identifies the engine only as an 'F5G' and does not name its maker anywhere on the model page, unlike the Yanmar and Mitsubishi units lower in the range
- 22.2 GPM total flow is only 1.1 GPM more than the 63 hp MT463 carries, so the hydraulics have not scaled with the engine
- The 3-point figure is quoted at the hitch end here, where the MT4 series quotes 24 in behind - the two are not comparable even within LS's own range
- No loader measuring point is published, and at 5,139 lb that rating is doing a lot of work in the buying decision
- At 7,985 lb and 100.6 hp it is at the top edge of this catalog's coverage, with a correspondingly thin dealer network for parts
John Deere 5095M
What they like
- 80 PTO hp from 95 gross is the best power conversion of any John Deere in this size range
- Maximum engine power rises to 97.8 hp above the 95 hp rated figure, so there is genuine reserve when a baler loads up
- MFWD is in the base price on Deere's own price page rather than a several-thousand-dollar option as it is on the 5E
- Turbocharged with air-to-air aftercooling, and the aftertreatment is a diesel oxidation catalyst plus SCR rather than a particulate filter
- The optional high-capacity hitch takes lift from 5,150 lb to 7,860 lb at 24 in. behind the lift points
- 24.7 gpm as standard and 25.6 gpm with the PowrQuad PLUS or Powr8 transmissions
What they complain about
- Roughly $4,300 more than a 5085M that shares its weight, hitch, hydraulics and fuel capacity - the step buys engine only
- About $82,000 on Deere's published list before the $16,038 cab, which is the real cost of putting an operator in it year-round
- Deere publishes no single powertrain warranty term for the 5M line that could be read off its literature
- Deere's loader prep package names the 520M, 540M and 600M as compatible without designating a match, so the 2,606 lb pivot-pin figure here is the smallest of the three options
- Ordering PowrQuad PLUS or Powr8 adds 442 lb, taking the machine to 8,740 lb
- SCR means carrying and topping up diesel exhaust fluid, which the DPF-free 5E line also avoids but without the SCR tank

