Both sub-compact · same John Deere lineup
John Deere 1023E vs John Deere 1M 25
| Spec | John Deere 1023E | John Deere 1M 25 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$15,759 | ~$18,013 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | dealer list, not MSRP |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Sub-Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 21.5 hp | 23.2 hp |
| PTO hp | 15.3 hp | 17.8 hp |
| Loader lift | 836 lbsat the pivot pin | 803 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 681 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 758 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 6.3 GPM | 6.3 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Yanmar | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,345 lbs | 1,556 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 5.6 gal | 6.3 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | No | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | Yes |
| Warranty | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
John Deere 1023E
What they like
- It's the cheapest way into a new John Deere, and frequent 0% financing deals put it within reach of ordinary homeowners
- It shares the 1025R's frame, axles, and attachment compatibility, so the 120R loader and AutoConnect deck all fit
- The Yanmar diesel is the same family as the 1025R's, and the gap between them is about 2 hp
- The Twin Touch hydrostatic pedals make it one of the friendliest first tractors for a total beginner
- It's light enough to tow with a half-ton truck and a basic utility trailer
- For mowing, snow removal, and light loader chores on a few acres, it does 90% of what the 1025R does for $2,000 less
What they complain about
- The stripped E-trim deletes cruise control, tilt steering, the suspension seat, and fender lights that make the 1025R nicer to live with
- Position control on the 3-point is replaced by a simpler system, so repeatable implement height settings are harder to dial in
- At 21.5 HP and 15.3 PTO HP it's among the weakest tractors on the lot, and thick grass or heavy loader work will slow it down
- The 681 lb 3-point lift rules out heavier rear implements entirely
- Owners who start doing serious loader work almost universally wish they'd bought a 2-series or bigger
- A Kubota BX2380 or Kioti CS2520 at similar money offers comparable or better specs, so the value case rests heavily on the green badge
John Deere 1M 25
What they like
- A factory-installed HVAC cab can be ordered, which the 1025R it replaces never offered at any price
- Cruise control is standard, so the Twin Touch pedals do not have to be held down through a long mow
- The 120R Quik-Park loader mounts without tools and lifts 803 lb at the pivot pin
- At 1,556 lb bare it still trailers behind a half-ton pickup on a modest trailer
- Three rear selective control valves on the base machine - one more than the larger 1R 25 gets
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- 758 lb at the hitch is unchanged from the 1E 23 below it, so the extra horsepower buys no extra lift
- 6.3 gpm of pump output is modest once a cab and a loader are both drawing on it
- Ordering the cab takes shipping weight to 2,019 lb, which changes the trailer and tow vehicle the machine needs
- Deere's own sheet rates it 24 hp by SAE J1995 while the published gross figure is 23.2 hp - a small gap, but the two numbers are not interchangeable
- Deere publishes no starting price, and only a handful of dealers quote a bare base-machine figure at all