Utility against Compact · same John Deere lineup
John Deere 5085M vs John Deere 4075R
| Spec | John Deere 5085M | John Deere 4075R |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$78,056 | ~$68,729 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | MSRP, base build |
| Size class | Utility | Compact |
| Transmission | Power Shuttle | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 85 hp | 74.3 hp |
| PTO hp | 70 hp | 60 hp |
| Loader lift | 3,027 lbsat the pivot pin | 2,313 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 5,150 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 2,709 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 24.7 GPM | 17.4 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | John Deere | Yanmar |
| Weight | 8,298 lbs | 4,828 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 37.7 gal | 14.7 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | No | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | Yes |
| Warranty | not published | not published |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
John Deere 5085M
What they like
- 70 PTO hp from 85 gross is a far better conversion than anything in the 5E line, where a 67.6 hp 5067E sends only 49 hp to the shaft
- MFWD is included in the base price on Deere's own price page, unlike the 5E where the front axle is a $7,103 extra
- 24.7 gpm of hydraulic flow, rising to 25.6 gpm with the PowrQuad PLUS or Powr8 transmission
- 5,150 lb of hitch lift at 24 in. behind the lift points, with a high-capacity option rated to 7,860 lb
- 37.7 gal of fuel on the open station and 43.7 gal with the cab - this is a machine built to stay out all day
- Aftertreatment is a diesel oxidation catalyst and SCR rather than a particulate filter, so there is no soot-loading regeneration cycle
- Four transmissions are offered above the standard PowrReverser, up to a 32F/16R Powr8 with creeper
What they complain about
- About $78,000 on Deere's published base list makes this the most expensive machine of its power class here, and the cab is a further $16,038
- Deere does not publish a single powertrain warranty term for the 5M that could be read off its literature, unlike the 5E's five years and the compacts' six
- Deere's loader prep package lists the 520M, 540M and 600M as compatible without naming one as the match, so the 2,606 lb pivot-pin figure shown here is the smallest of the three - a 540M lifts 3,027 lb at the same point
- At 8,298 lb it is too heavy for turf work and too large for the tight yards a compact handles easily
- No cruise control is listed on the standard PowrReverser build
John Deere 4075R
What they like
- The ComfortGard cab is standard, not an option - Deere's own model page and its government price page both list a single base configuration with no open-station alternative
- 60 PTO hp from a compact chassis, more than the 57.6 hp a 5075E utility tractor puts out
- 2,709 lb at 24 in. behind the lift points, a genuine step up from the 2,500 lb shared by the rest of the 4 Family
- A heavy-duty front axle is base equipment, which is the structural difference from the 4044R and 4052R rather than a marketing line
- Electrohydraulic rear hitch control with Hitch Assist and LED work lights are standard
- Charge-air cooling takes the same 2.091 L block that makes 50.8 hp in a 4052R up to 74.3 hp
What they complain about
- eHydro is the only transmission - no PowrReverser is offered, so there is no gear option and no way to recover the PTO horsepower a hydrostatic costs
- Deere's published 6-year, 2,000-hour compact powertrain warranty is worded as covering machines of 22.4 through 65.9 engine horsepower, and this machine sits above that band; the applicable term is worth confirming with a dealer before purchase
- The 440R loader is unchanged from the 43 hp 4044R at 2,313 lb at the pivot pin, so nearly $28,000 of price step buys no additional lift
- Deere's 440R compatibility list still names only the 4044R, 4049R, 4052R and 4066R, and has not been updated since this model launched
- Dealer sheets disagree on fuel capacity and weight, some printing the generic 4-Series cab figures of 13.8 gal and 4,675 lb rather than this model's 14.7 gal and 4,828 lb
- At roughly $68,000 before a loader it costs more than a 5075E utility tractor with more PTO power and a bigger hitch