Both compact · Bobcat against John Deere
Bobcat CT4050 vs John Deere 3033R
| Spec | Bobcat CT4050 | John Deere 3033R |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$32,608 | ~$32,719 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | MSRP, base build |
| Size class | Compact | Compact |
| Transmission | Shuttle | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 50.3 hp | 31.8 hp |
| PTO hp | 45.6 hp | 23 hp |
| Loader lift | 1,795 lbsat max height | 1,393 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 2,716 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 2,194 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 14.1 GPM | 15.3 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Daedong | Yanmar |
| Weight | 3,745 lbs | 2,983 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 11.9 gal | 10 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | No | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | No | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | Yes |
| Warranty | not published | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
Bobcat CT4050
What they like
- 45.6 PTO hp for $32,608 undercuts the 44.9 hp CT4045 on both price and implement power, because the base build here is the manual shuttle
- The 8x8 synchro shuttle changes direction without a full clutch stop, which is what you want for hours of tilling or cutting
- 1,795 lb loader lift at max height and 2,716 lb at 24 in behind the hitch match the rest of the 4000 platform
- A three-range hydrostatic is available if you change your mind, though PTO output falls to 39.3 hp with it
- Turbocharged 111 cu in Daedong three-cylinder at 2,750 rpm
What they complain about
- 14.1 gpm of flow on the shuttle build is 2.4 gpm short of the hydrostatic version's 16.5, so loader cycles are slower
- No cab variant is listed for the CT4050 - if you want heat and A/C you have to move to the CT4545 or the 5000 platform
- 11.9 gal of fuel is modest for 50 hp of turbo diesel
- Emissions hardware is not stated on the page, so a particulate filter and its regeneration behaviour are a dealer question
- No published warranty term
John Deere 3033R
What they like
- 15.3 gpm total pump flow with 9.1 gpm to implements is two-thirds more than the 3E line manages, which is what makes a backhoe and loader usable on the same machine
- 2,194 lb at 24 in. behind the lift points, against 1,356 lb on a 3038E costing barely less
- A factory ComfortGard cab with climate control can be ordered, and nothing in the 3E or 3D lines can
- The 320R loader lifts 1,393 lb at the pivot pin against the 300E's 1,186 lb, a real step up in the hardware that does the work
- Cruise control is standard with eHydro, and a 12F/12R PowrReverser gearbox is available instead if you want gears
- 10 gal of fuel on the open-station build, rising to 12.6 gal with the cab
What they complain about
- 23 PTO hp with eHydro is the weakest link in the machine - a 3038E costing less puts 30 hp to the PTO
- It is the only 3R with no turbocharger, so 31.8 hp comes from a naturally aspirated 1.642 L and there is no headroom under load
- The cab is offered only with eHydro, so the PowrReverser and cab cannot be combined
- 1,005 lb at 500 mm ahead of the pivot pin is the figure that governs pallet forks, well below the 1,393 lb pin rating that gets quoted
- Final Tier 4 here means a diesel particulate filter and regeneration cycles