Both sub-compact · same John Deere lineup
John Deere 1025R vs John Deere 1M 25
| Spec | John Deere 1025R | John Deere 1M 25 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$18,764 | ~$18,013 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | dealer list, not MSRP |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Sub-Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 23.9 hp | 23.2 hp |
| PTO hp | 18 hp | 17.8 hp |
| Loader lift | 905 lbsat the pivot pin | 803 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 681 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 758 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 6.4 GPM | 6.3 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Yanmar | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,543 lbs | 1,556 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 5.4 gal | 6.3 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | No | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | Yes | Yes |
| Warranty | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
John Deere 1025R
What they like
- The AutoConnect drive-over mower deck is genuinely a 5-minute on/off job you do without leaving the seat, unlike Kubota's BX where you crawl underneath to hook things up
- Dealer network is enormous - almost everyone has a Deere dealer within 30 minutes for parts and warranty, which is a huge deal when you break a hydraulic line
- Independent PTO with the flip of a lever means you can stop moving without killing the mower or tiller, something budget tractors fumble
- Resale value is legendary - people routinely sell used 1025Rs for 80-90% of what they paid after several years of use
- The hydrostatic transmission with Twin Touch pedals is smooth and forgiving, ideal for first-time tractor owners doing loader work
- Cruise control on the HST is a back-saver for long mowing sessions, and it's standard not an upcharge
What they complain about
- Premium pricing - you pay a real Deere tax versus a comparably specced Kubota BX2380 or Mahindra eMax that costs $2,000-4,000 less loaded
- Only 23.9 HP means it can bog down in heavy loader work or thick brush - it's a light-duty machine and owners who push it wish they'd bought a 2-series
- The 3-point lift of 681 lbs is modest, so heavier rear implements like a big box blade or post-hole digger max it out
- Deere locks you into their proprietary Quik-Park loader and AutoConnect deck, so third-party attachments are limited and pricey
- The small 5.4-gallon fuel tank means frequent refills during a full day of work
- Tier 4 emissions and the compact engine bay make some DIY maintenance more fiddly than older simpler tractors
- Ground clearance is low, so it struggles on rough or rutted terrain compared to a true compact like the 2025R or 3025E
John Deere 1M 25
What they like
- A factory-installed HVAC cab can be ordered, which the 1025R it replaces never offered at any price
- Cruise control is standard, so the Twin Touch pedals do not have to be held down through a long mow
- The 120R Quik-Park loader mounts without tools and lifts 803 lb at the pivot pin
- At 1,556 lb bare it still trailers behind a half-ton pickup on a modest trailer
- Three rear selective control valves on the base machine - one more than the larger 1R 25 gets
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- 758 lb at the hitch is unchanged from the 1E 23 below it, so the extra horsepower buys no extra lift
- 6.3 gpm of pump output is modest once a cab and a loader are both drawing on it
- Ordering the cab takes shipping weight to 2,019 lb, which changes the trailer and tow vehicle the machine needs
- Deere's own sheet rates it 24 hp by SAE J1995 while the published gross figure is 23.2 hp - a small gap, but the two numbers are not interchangeable
- Deere publishes no starting price, and only a handful of dealers quote a bare base-machine figure at all