Both sub-compact · John Deere against Yanmar
John Deere 1R 25 vs Yanmar SA325
| Spec | John Deere 1R 25 | Yanmar SA325 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$20,897 | ~$19,999 |
| What that price is | dealer list, not MSRP | dealer list, not MSRP |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Sub-Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 23.2 hp | 23.9 hp |
| PTO hp | 17.8 hp | 18.1 hp |
| Loader lift | 803 lbsat the pivot pin | 1,200 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 915 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 1,209 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 7.4 GPM | 8.0 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Yanmar | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,872 lbs | 1,715 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 5.4 gal | 6.1 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | No |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | Yes | No |
| Warranty | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain | 10 yr / 3000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
John Deere 1R 25
What they like
- 915 lb at 24 in. behind the link arms is 157 lb more hitch capacity than the 1M 25, which is the entire reason to step up to it
- 7.4 gpm of total pump output with 3.9 gpm reaching implements, against 6.3 gpm total on the 1M 25
- A 63 in. wheelbase and 1,872 lb base weight sit noticeably more planted on a slope than the shorter 1 Series machines
- Factory-installed HVAC cab is available and cruise control is standard
- The 120R Quik-Park loader comes off without tools when the tractor is wanted for mowing instead
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- Only two rear selective control valves, where the lighter 1M 25 is specified with three
- 5.4 gal is the smallest fuel tank in the new 1 Series despite this being the heaviest machine in it
- Deere markets it as a sub-compact, but at 1,872 lb and 63 in. it is doing a 2 Series tractor's job and wants 2 Series-sized implements and storage space
- Still 23.2 hp, identical to the 1M 25, so the extra 316 lb of machine is carried on no extra power
- Deere publishes no starting price; the base-machine figure here rests on a single dealer's published bare-tractor quote
Yanmar SA325
What they like
- Runs the identical 23.9 hp 3TNV80F engine and YL210 loader as the more expensive SA425, so the cheaper badge does not mean a smaller engine or a weaker front end
- 1,200 lb loader lift at the pivot pin is strong for a sub-compact, roughly 45% more than the 825 lb the SA223 manages
- 10-year / 3,000-hour limited powertrain warranty runs about double the powertrain terms Kubota and John Deere put on this class
- Full-frame chassis rather than a load-bearing transmission case, which is uncommon at a sub-$20,000 sticker
- Independent electro-hydraulic PTO drives both a mid shaft at 2,057 rpm and a rear shaft at 554 rpm, so a belly mower and a rear implement each get a proper drive
- Stays under the 25 hp emissions threshold, so there is no diesel particulate filter to regenerate or eventually pay to replace
What they complain about
- 6.1-gallon tank is the smallest in the Yanmar line and roughly half what the YM2 series carries, so loader days mean a refuelling stop
- The 8.0 GPM total splits into just 4.3 GPM for implements and 3.7 GPM for steering, so running a backhoe and loader together leaves the implement circuit working hard
- 3-point capacity is published only as 1,209 lb measured 24 inches behind the lift point, which cannot be set against makers who quote at the ball ends
- Yanmar does not list a cab or enclosure for the SA325, where the sibling SA425DHX offers a soft- or hard-side option
- Yanmar's dealer coverage is thinner than Kubota's or Deere's, which matters more for parts turnaround than for the purchase itself
- Yanmar publishes no MSRP of its own, so the sticker is whatever the dealer price book says and there is no maker figure to hold it against