Both sub-compact · Kioti against John Deere
Kioti CS2530 vs John Deere 1M 25
| Spec | Kioti CS2530 | John Deere 1M 25 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$18,257 | ~$18,013 |
| What that price is | MSRP, base build | dealer list, not MSRP |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Sub-Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 24.5 hp | 23.2 hp |
| PTO hp | 19.3 hp | 17.8 hp |
| Loader lift | 871 lbsat the pivot pin | 803 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 700 lbsmeasuring point not recorded | 758 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 7.0 GPM | 6.3 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Daedong | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,735 lbs | 1,556 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 6.6 gal | 6.3 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | Yes |
| Warranty | 6 yr / unlimited hr powertrain | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
Kioti CS2530
What they like
- 24.5 hp and 19.3 PTO hp tops the CS range while still sitting under the 25 hp threshold that brings aftertreatment with it
- The cab version exists at this hp point alone in the CS series, so a heated sub-compact does not mean changing series
- Shares the heavier 1,735 lb CS chassis, which matters more than horsepower once a bucket is loaded
- 7.0 gpm pump and two-range hydrostatic, carried over unchanged from the models below
- 72-month unlimited-hour powertrain warranty and 24 months bumper-to-bumper with no deductible
- About $1,800 over the CS2230 buys 3.5 engine hp and 2.6 PTO hp with nothing else on the machine changed
What they complain about
- 871 lb at the pivot pin is modest for 24.5 hp - Kioti's own CX2510, at the same horsepower, lifts 1,092 lb
- The cab adds $8,592 over the open-station price, more than half the cost of an entire CS2210
- 700 lb of 3-point lift is the same as the 21 hp CS models, with no measuring point published
John Deere 1M 25
What they like
- A factory-installed HVAC cab can be ordered, which the 1025R it replaces never offered at any price
- Cruise control is standard, so the Twin Touch pedals do not have to be held down through a long mow
- The 120R Quik-Park loader mounts without tools and lifts 803 lb at the pivot pin
- At 1,556 lb bare it still trailers behind a half-ton pickup on a modest trailer
- Three rear selective control valves on the base machine - one more than the larger 1R 25 gets
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- 758 lb at the hitch is unchanged from the 1E 23 below it, so the extra horsepower buys no extra lift
- 6.3 gpm of pump output is modest once a cab and a loader are both drawing on it
- Ordering the cab takes shipping weight to 2,019 lb, which changes the trailer and tow vehicle the machine needs
- Deere's own sheet rates it 24 hp by SAE J1995 while the published gross figure is 23.2 hp - a small gap, but the two numbers are not interchangeable
- Deere publishes no starting price, and only a handful of dealers quote a bare base-machine figure at all