Both sub-compact · LS Tractor against John Deere
LS XJ2025H vs John Deere 1R 25
| Spec | LS XJ2025H | John Deere 1R 25 |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$21,308 | ~$20,897 |
| What that price is | dealer list, not MSRP | dealer list, not MSRP |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Sub-Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Hydrostatic |
| Engine hp | 24.4 hp | 23.2 hp |
| PTO hp | 18.5 hp | 17.8 hp |
| Loader lift | 1,091 lbsmeasuring point not recorded | 803 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 1,433 lbsat the ball ends | 915 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 8.5 GPM | 7.4 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Mitsubishi | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,609 lbs | 1,872 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 6.6 gal | 5.4 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | No | Yes |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | Yes |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | No | Yes |
| Warranty | 6 yr powertrain | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
LS XJ2025H
What they like
- 1,433 lb of 3-point lift is roughly 45 percent more than the MT1 sub-compacts manage, on a frame only 165 lb heavier
- 8.5 GPM total with 5.9 GPM to the implement circuit, against 6.7 and 4.6 on the MT1 - a meaningful difference on a backhoe or a grapple
- Stays under 25 gross hp, so it meets Tier 4 Final without a particulate filter or a regeneration cycle
- A cab is listed as an option on LS's own page, which is unusual at this size
What they complain about
- No published price from LS at any level - series, model or configuration - so the figure is read off dealer books and moved about $1,400 between the two consulted
- Only 18.5 hp reaches the PTO, so a 60 in finish mower is near the top of what it will turn comfortably
- 1,091 lb loader lift is barely above the MT1's 1,008 lb despite the larger frame and hydraulics
- LS states no measuring point for loader lift on this or any other model page
- The XJ is a one-model series, so there is no step up or down within it if the fit is wrong
John Deere 1R 25
What they like
- 915 lb at 24 in. behind the link arms is 157 lb more hitch capacity than the 1M 25, which is the entire reason to step up to it
- 7.4 gpm of total pump output with 3.9 gpm reaching implements, against 6.3 gpm total on the 1M 25
- A 63 in. wheelbase and 1,872 lb base weight sit noticeably more planted on a slope than the shorter 1 Series machines
- Factory-installed HVAC cab is available and cruise control is standard
- The 120R Quik-Park loader comes off without tools when the tractor is wanted for mowing instead
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- Only two rear selective control valves, where the lighter 1M 25 is specified with three
- 5.4 gal is the smallest fuel tank in the new 1 Series despite this being the heaviest machine in it
- Deere markets it as a sub-compact, but at 1,872 lb and 63 in. it is doing a 2 Series tractor's job and wants 2 Series-sized implements and storage space
- Still 23.2 hp, identical to the 1M 25, so the extra 316 lb of machine is carried on no extra power
- Deere publishes no starting price; the base-machine figure here rests on a single dealer's published bare-tractor quote