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John Deere 2038R

~$31,253

MSRP, base build

John Deere 2038R
Compact
36.7 hp engine · 30 PTO−18% to the shaft

Thirty-seven horsepower while keeping the AutoConnect mower deck on the options list, which nothing else this size manages. Sitting between the 2025R and the 3-Series, its premium platform - eHydro, cruise, full dash - is what the money buys.

Engine
36.7 hp
PTO
30 hp
Loader lift
1,120 lbs
3-pt lift
1,356 lbs

0.96 PTO hp per $1,000 of list price

As published by the maker

Specifications

Size class
Compact
Transmission
Hydrostatic
Engine
Yanmar
Engine hp
36.7 hp
PTO hp
30 hp
Drive
4WD
Loader lift
1,120 lbs
Three-point lift
1,356 lbs
Hydraulic flow
9.3 GPM
Fuel tank
8.5 gal
Weight
2,610 lbs
Warranty
6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain
4WD
Yes
Cab
Open station
Turbo
Yes
Cruise control
Yes

On the price: The maker's own published starting figure for the base build. A dealer adds a loader, a deck and freight on top.

Lift figures are the maker's and are quoted at whichever point the maker chose; the about page explains why two loaders with the same number do not lift the same pallet.

Comes with

4WDHydrostaticFront LoaderPower SteeringCruise ControlTurboDiesel

From owner discussion and long-term write-ups

What owners say

What they like

  • The turbocharged 36.7 HP Yanmar gives it 3-series power in a 2-series package, and it doesn't bog under heavy loader or PTO load
  • It's the biggest tractor that still takes the AutoConnect drive-over mower deck, making it the top pick for owners who mow large lawns and do real tractor work
  • 30 PTO HP comfortably runs a 6-foot mid-mount deck, 5-foot rotary cutter, tillers, and snowblowers
  • The premium R-platform gets the deluxe seat, tilt wheel, cruise, and refined eHydro that the E-series models lack
  • Lower center of gravity than the 3-series makes it noticeably more stable on slopes, a recurring owner compliment
  • The 220R Quik-Park loader detaches in minutes without tools and pairs with a mechanical self-leveling option

What they complain about

  • It's expensive - loaded with the 220R loader it lands in the mid-$30Ks, squarely in 3033R/3038R territory
  • The 1,356 lb 3-point lift is unchanged from smaller models, so heavy rear implements like big box blades max it out
  • Many buyers agonize between it and the 3038R, which offers a bigger frame and more lift for similar money if you don't need AutoConnect
  • The turbo and common-rail injection add complexity versus the simple naturally aspirated engines Deere fans grew up on
  • The 220R loader's 1,120 lb lift trails cheaper Korean rivals that lift nearly double
  • Deere's proprietary loader and deck attachments lock you out of cheaper third-party gear
  • The Deere badge premium is real - a Kioti CK3520 or Yanmar YT235 with similar specs costs thousands less

Gathered from owner reports

What owners report

The 2038R gets recommended by owners as the machine that is big enough to finish the job and still small enough to get into the woods. Owners describe it doing real work on properties from four acres up to sixty: one on 22 acres calls it exactly the right size for a mower, a snowblower and a stump grinder while still fitting the tight spots in his timber; another on 40 acres mows twelve, maintains ten acres of woods and clears a quarter-mile gravel drive plus half a mile of county road the county never gets to. Snow is where owners are most emphatic — a 60-inch front blower moving 24 inches of heavy wet snow comes up, along with a strong preference for turf radials, which several owners rate the best snow tire even though they give up mud traction.

The most useful thing in the file is not about the tractor at all, it is about buying one. Owners report dealers in one-dealer territories holding firm at list — one neighbour was quoted $40,000 locally and bought the same machine in Nebraska for $32,000 including a front remote, with $1,200 of shipping on top. Another found one online $6,000 under his local dealer and talked the local dealer into matching it plus delivery plus $500, specifically so warranty work would stay nearby. A third bought a 150-hour used machine with a truckload of implements for the price of a base new unit. And 0% financing repeatedly decides the brand: one owner found Kubota about a thousand dollars cheaper and nearly nine thousand more in interest.

Loader capacity is where owners argue, and the argument is really about measurement. Figures ranging from 800 pounds to over 2,200 all appear from owners of the same tractor, and the explanation that settles it comes from an owner spelling out the three ways capacity is quoted: breakout force, full height at the pivot pin, and full height at the bucket about 500mm forward — the last being roughly 70% of the pin figure and the only one that reflects what you can actually pick up. Owners also warn that pallet forks feel tippy on soft, uneven ground even with loaded tires. On the backhoe, two owners who have logged real hours with the 270B say the same thing in different words: it beats a shovel and it saved them buying a second machine, but the limited reach and depth means constant repositioning, and both keep thinking about a mini excavator.

What comes up favourably

  • Owners consistently describe it as the size that does the work without losing access — one on 22 acres runs a mower, snowblower and stump grinder with it and still gets into tight spots in his woods, which is the tradeoff people buying bigger give up.
  • Snow is its strongest suit. An owner with a 60-inch front blower moves 24 inches of heavy wet snow without drama, and owners clearing long drives and county road keep recommending a front-mount blower over blading or pushing with the bucket.
  • Turf radials get an unexpectedly strong recommendation from owners for winter work — rated the best tire they have used for snow traction on modest grades, at the cost of mud performance.
  • The turbo is the option owners tell buyers not to skip, and the reason they give is altitude: at higher elevations the naturally aspirated alternatives lose what the turbo keeps, and the 2038R is one of the smallest turbocharged machines available.
  • Owners who mow with the mid-mount deck defend it firmly. One would not hesitate to recommend a belly mower on a machine this size, and another moving from a zero-turn found a 4.5-foot flail not much slower over the same lawn, with far better ride comfort and no sitting in dust and clippings.
  • It holds value well enough that owners treat the purchase as reversible — one points out that between 0% financing and a strong used market he could trade up later without feeling he had lost anything.
  • Owners doing heavy but not agricultural work find it right-sized: a 5-foot landscape rake clearing half an acre of wood chips, a 6-foot brush hog covering 20 to 30 acres in a couple of days, and grapple work moving downed trees all come up as jobs it handles.

What comes up as a complaint

  • Loader capacity claims from owners range from 800 pounds to over 2,200, which tells you the number alone is useless. The distinction that matters is where it is measured — breakout force, full height at the pivot pin, or full height at the bucket roughly 500mm forward, which is about 70% of the pin figure and the one you can actually lift.
  • Pallet forks feel tippy on soft or uneven ground even with loaded tires, according to an owner who had run the same ground for twenty years on an older machine and was still adjusting to the new one.
  • Dealers in single-dealer territories do not negotiate, and owners report list prices thousands above what the same machine sells for elsewhere — several bought out of state and paid to ship rather than pay local list.
  • Backhoe owners who have actually used theirs are lukewarm. Both report the 270B works and beats a shovel, but that limited reach and depth means climbing off the hoe to move the tractor constantly, and that the seven-to-nine-thousand-dollar cost is a real down payment on a mini excavator that would dig faster.
  • Faults owners report cluster around heat and electrics: one machine overheated persistently and had its mid-mount mower guide wheels break off and be welded back more than once, another shut down cleanly 30 to 60 seconds after starting with no fault codes and defeated new PTO and seat switches. A dealer service manager traced a similar overheating pattern to the filtration system and filters.
  • It carries a particulate filter, and owners' reservation is less about the regens than about the long term — one calls the DPF annoying but liveable while wondering whether the machine will still be running and supported in twenty years. Greasing the front U-joint is also awkward enough that owners resort to a needle adapter.

Questions worth asking

How much can the 2038R loader actually lift?
Less than the biggest numbers you will hear, and the disagreement is about where the measurement is taken. Owners quote everything from 800 pounds to over 2,200 for the same tractor. The useful framing comes from an owner who lays out the three conventions: breakout force, full height at the pivot pin, and full height at the bucket about 500mm forward — the last being roughly 70% of the pin figure and the only one that reflects a load on forks. A dealer puts the practical figure at 1,000 to 1,100 pounds.
2038R or a 2025R?
Owners who considered both are unusually one-sided here. The recurring advice is that if you are buying a 2-series, buy a 2032R or 2038R, because those are the ones with the lift capacity and capability the series is meant to have; the 2025R is described as a taller 1025R. Owners who went to the 2038R specifically cite not wanting a limited 3-point hitch.
Is it worth buying out of state?
Owners regularly do. In territories with one Deere dealer, list price is the price, and owners report saving $6,000 to $8,000 by buying elsewhere and paying about $1,200 to ship. One owner's better move: he found the out-of-area price, took it to his local dealer, and offered to buy locally at that price plus delivery plus $500 — keeping the relationship for warranty work. Also weigh financing: one owner chose Deere over a Kubota that was a thousand cheaper because the interest difference was close to nine thousand.
Can it handle heavy tillage and plowing?
Within limits, and owners are candid about them. A 6-foot brush hog over 20 to 30 acres takes a couple of days. A tiller at 30 PTO horsepower will bog depending on soil conditions, according to an owner doing spring tillage on ten acres. And one owner argues that drawbar horsepower is well below the PTO rating once hydrostatic losses are counted, which is why a much heavier old gear-drive tractor out-pulls it with a two-bottom plow.
Should I get the backhoe?
Only with recurring digging work, and even then owners hedge. Two owners with the 270B have logged real hours — culverts, retaining walls, stumps, burying a water line below a 60-inch frost line — and both say it works and saved them buying a second machine. Both also say the limited depth and reach means repositioning constantly, and that the money is a real down payment on a mini excavator. One owner's counterpoint is that renting failed him: the rental did not arrive on time and then broke down mid-job.

Summarised from public owner discussion, not from testing. Nothing here was measured by this site, and a report that recurs is not the same as a defect rate.

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