Sub-Compact against Compact · same John Deere lineup
John Deere 1R 25 vs John Deere 3025D
| Spec | John Deere 1R 25 | John Deere 3025D |
|---|---|---|
| Price | ~$20,897 | ~$20,857 |
| What that price is | dealer list, not MSRP | MSRP, base build |
| Size class | Sub-Compact | Compact |
| Transmission | Hydrostatic | Shuttle |
| Engine hp | 23.2 hp | 24.4 hp |
| PTO hp | 17.8 hp | 20.7 hp |
| Loader lift | 803 lbsat the pivot pin | 1,186 lbsat the pivot pin |
| Three-point lift | 915 lbs24 in behind the lift points | 2,081 lbs24 in behind the lift points |
| Hydraulic flow | 7.4 GPM | 8.9 GPM |
| Drive | 4WD | 4WD |
| Engine | Yanmar | Yanmar |
| Weight | 1,872 lbs | 2,778 lbs |
| Fuel tank | 5.4 gal | 9.7 gal |
| 4WD | Yes | Yes |
| Front loader | Yes | Yes |
| Cab available | Yes | No |
| Hydrostatic | Yes | No |
| Power steering | Yes | Yes |
| Cruise control | Yes | No |
| Warranty | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain | 6 yr / 2000 hr powertrain |
A highlighted cell wins its row on the rule named above the table: more power, lift, capacity or flow, or a lower price. A lift row is left unwon whenever the two makers measured in different places, or where either of them did not say — a figure quoted at the pivot pin and one quoted 500 mm ahead of it describe the same loader and differ by roughly a third, so ranking them against each other would invent a result. Prices are typical list and move with dealer packages.
From owner discussion and long-term write-ups
What owners of each one say
John Deere 1R 25
What they like
- 915 lb at 24 in. behind the link arms is 157 lb more hitch capacity than the 1M 25, which is the entire reason to step up to it
- 7.4 gpm of total pump output with 3.9 gpm reaching implements, against 6.3 gpm total on the 1M 25
- A 63 in. wheelbase and 1,872 lb base weight sit noticeably more planted on a slope than the shorter 1 Series machines
- Factory-installed HVAC cab is available and cruise control is standard
- The 120R Quik-Park loader comes off without tools when the tractor is wanted for mowing instead
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- Only two rear selective control valves, where the lighter 1M 25 is specified with three
- 5.4 gal is the smallest fuel tank in the new 1 Series despite this being the heaviest machine in it
- Deere markets it as a sub-compact, but at 1,872 lb and 63 in. it is doing a 2 Series tractor's job and wants 2 Series-sized implements and storage space
- Still 23.2 hp, identical to the 1M 25, so the extra 316 lb of machine is carried on no extra power
- Deere publishes no starting price; the base-machine figure here rests on a single dealer's published bare-tractor quote
John Deere 3025D
What they like
- Staying under 25 hp means no diesel particulate filter, so there are no regeneration cycles to sit through and one fewer expensive part to replace later
- 2,081 lb at 24 in. behind the link arms is a real 3-Series hitch, well beyond what the sub-25 hp sub-compacts manage
- 9.7 gal of fuel is half again the 3E line's 7.5 gal, so a full day of gear work does not mean a midday refuel
- Published Deere base list is around $20,857 before a loader, undercutting the hydrostatic 3025E by roughly $2,000 for the same hitch class
- At 2,778 lb it is heavier than a 3032E, which helps it stay planted with a loaded bucket up front
- Six years or 2,000 hours of powertrain coverage
What they complain about
- There is no hydrostatic option on the D line at any price, so every direction change on loader work goes through the clutch and shuttle lever
- 20.7 PTO hp is the lowest in the 3 Series and will limit you to a 5 ft rotary cutter in heavy grass
- No cab is offered on any 3D model, so this is a fair-weather machine
- 8.9 gpm total pump flow with 5.1 gpm reaching implements is the thinnest hydraulics in the family - a backhoe and loader together will feel slow
- The 300E loader lifts 1,186 lb at the pivot pin but only 845 lb measured 500 mm ahead of it, and the forward figure is what governs a loaded pallet fork
- Deere's most recent published base list price for this model is dated, and dealer 'starting at' quotes that look competitive usually have a 300E loader folded into them

